How To Setup a Patreon that Supports You Full-Time

How To Setup a Patreon that Supports You Full-Time

Today, guys, we’re going to help
you learn how to best optimize your Patreon page by taking
a look at my own Patreon page with Peter Hollens. He knows a lot about
this kind of stuff. He’s going to help both of us
coming up right after this. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hey, guys. My name is Tim Schmoyer. And welcome to another
episode of Video Creators. This channel is all about
helping you guys grow your YouTube audiences
so you can spread a message that changes lives. And today I’m really excited to
get an evaluation of my Patreon page to figure out
how I can better turn this into a bigger
part of my business, here at Video Creators. And to help me with that
is this guy, Peter Hollens. Hey, Peter. How are you man? I’m doing great. How are you guys doing? You guys. I’m doing great. I’m doing great. There’s multiple you. There’s lots of people
watching this right now. So we’re all doing great. So tell us a little
bit about your channel, what you do on YouTube,
and how came to Patreon, and, your involvement there. And then let’s dig
into my Patreon. You can find might
work on YouTube by just typing in Peter–
which is great– SEO. I think it was the third day
Patreon had ever gone public. I actually had two or three
fans on multiple platforms say, hey, I just found
this really cool company. I want to support you on it. The second I went to the site,
and I understood the concept, which was completely
new at the time– that Jack Conte and Sam came
up with, the co-founders– I was just completely blown away. I started my account. And I started just,
literally, harassing them. I was like, I want to help. This is brilliant. How can I be a part of this? And so, very quickly,
I adopted it. I pushed it out at
the end of my videos. And actually,
eventually, Jack and Sam had me come on and be an
adviser to the company. And your Patreon page is
doing pretty good, right? Oh gosh. It’s a pretty substantial
part of your income, supports you and
the work that you’re doing– the way you’re
trying to serve creators and your audience, as well. Yeah, it’s mind blowing that
my entire family can live off of my Patreon page alone. That’s awesome that
people love you that much. So let’s look at mine, though. What do you see here? So my goal here,
Peter, is– primarily, is, as you– I think everyone
else knows– is like, how can I use this
to, first of all, better serve the people who
are in my community, who are learning to
grow their channels, and spread messages
that change lives? But also do that in a way
that makes it sustainable for me to continue to
serve them financially? So what do you see here? Right, could you scroll down,
just so that everybody can see. You only have two reward tiers
that are both, in my opinion, decently low considering
the amount of information and the options that
you have the ability to offer as either someone that
has digital products, someone who can consult. I would, literally, sit down
and brainstorm every single one of those different
modules in your courses that you’ve ever done. Think about the possibility
of breaking those up. Think about the
possibility of, each week, giving access to one
module week two– a tier that’s like, $15 and above. I mean, basically,
like, turning this into a subscription
service that provides a tremendous amount of value. But unlike when people
can go to your site and just buy these
things in bulk, you’re giving them to
them like, once a week. Another idea– and I know
that’s kind of convoluted, because you have so much
products available that you can do that with. I got lots of stuff I could
sell and make a part of this. Yeah, you’re right. I would make it so
that you have like, a $3, a $10, something
around like a $25– so maybe something around $50, $75–
and then maybe something more substantial around $150. So is there a point where you
have too many reward tiers– people just like, I don’t know? Absolutely, so that’s
another great point. I would grow it slowly, right? So you don’t just throw
down nine reward tiers, because people just get
totally overwhelmed by too many options. I would say, five is
a really good number. OK, I only got two. Right, so I would maybe
double that to four. And then see if maybe
there’s another reward tier at some level
that you’re like, oh, this might really work. So if you need to adjust a level
because it doesn’t make sense to you, I’ve done
that numerous times and it’s never been
something that anyone’s ever complained about. Truthfully, no one’s ever
complained once to me– Really? –on Patreon about anything. The main question I
had about was like, changing this on people. Like, hey, you were
paying $9 a month. Surprise, $15 a
month, or whatever. Like, how does that go over? And that conversation needs
to be a conversation, right? It needs to be like, hey, guys. This is what I’m thinking. How does that make you feel? Is it OK if we do this? And if like, everyone’s
up in a huge uproar, then maybe you just need to
start a different tier. And you can bite
the bullet on that. And put a cap. So moving forward, no
one else can get that. And you can slowly
push that cap out once people stop supporting. I want to tackle something that
I think is much bigger, though. So let’s go to the
top of your page. I truthfully believe that
it is incredibly important to be a per piece of content. The per month thing,
in my opinion, just doesn’t make sense. So say the thing–
a monthly fee, for people who might not
be familiar– on Patreon, there’s two options. You can pay someone on a
monthly, recurring fee, or you can pay them
every time they publish a new piece of content. I think it actually
allows there to be more transparency between
supporter and creator. So if I’m going to switch
to a per piece of content, one that’s more motivation for
me to make sure I keep getting that content out, because I
don’t get paid if I don’t. Right. But– and which, too, helps
serve the creator better for the money that
they’re contributing. But I feel like,
just by listening to you talk, it feels
less like a, hey, I’m paying my
monthly Netflix bill. Instead it’s more
like– it feels like it’s more personable. Like, I’m paying– there’s more
tangible– what I’m actually getting each time. Absolutely. And I feel like this
entire experience, from a crowd-funding
perspective and why this is so different than a
Kickstarter, Indiegogo, is that this is all about really
gracefully and handholding your community. And your fostering a community. And I think that’s a
much better way to do it. It’s transparent. Everything needs to be
transparent and real. My next question would be,
on your videos on YouTube, do you tell your
community about Patreon or do you thank your current
Patreons who are supporting you, at the end of your videos. Probably not as often
as I could or should. Like, in this video–
when I do my news videos– one of the perks for the $3,
they get more news stories. And so, I say, at the
end of this video, I’ll be, like, if we actually
have three other stories. I’m talking to you
guys about this, that, and the other thing. I’ll be posting those for
those of you who are Patreons, or,
thanks for your support. And that’s kind of it. And then I keep going. I don’t spend a lot of time. OK, I have a much better
recommendation for you. So I think the entire
pushing– the concept of just– the overall concept
of pushing people behind a pay wall to, like,
there’s more content, I don’t think that’s
as much– I don’t think that’s more successful than
truthfully just thanking your current Patreons who
are supporting the content. And then just saying, if
you guys what to know more about it, click right here. Also, I think a no-brainer
level of support on a reward, is including people’s names
at the end of the video, especially for
like– it’s almost like they’re an associate
producer of your content. So I would say, you
could very easily have a per content– like a
$50, or a $25, or a $35, or a $40 of– have your
name at the end of every one of my videos, right? Yeah. And then in doing so,
in a very naturally– and in a genuine way, allows
you to thank the people who are supporting at this reward tier. And it then– it gets people
to always– number one, it gets you to always talk
about Patreon in a very genuine, authentic way. But number two,
it’s very genuine. You’re like, thank
you guys so much. You’re given me way more
money than you should. This is awesome. If it’s like $50 and you
get 50 people doing that, do you give all 50
of them a shout-out. Or do you limit it
to less than that? Oh, it’s not a verbal shout-out. It’s, literally, just– Oh, on screen? –scrolling credits, yeah. Oh, I see. So thanks– I got you. And so during your
close-out, you just naturally thank– you
thank your Patreons. When you become a Patreon,
you have the ability to have a thank you message
or a thank you video. Your thank you video
is your intro video, which I think is totally lame. OK. You need to have a very
genuine, like, iPhone video. Not like, right in front of
your blah, blah, blah screen. But like, you
sitting on the couch, maybe with your kids– I know
you’re a huge family man– you just being, like,
thank you guys so much. It means the world to me
that you support what I do. It’s because of you that
I get to keep doing this. And it means– and
say something that’s truly meaningful from the heart. You’re establishing that
connection right there, because in the end,
no matter what– and I tell every
single person this, whether you’re a
musician, whether you’re a personality– the only way
you’re really going to succeed is if you get people to like
you for who you are as a person. And I know it means
a lot to you to help show good family values,
and who you are as a person, and being a good father. I feel like you
can do things– you could do this simultaneously
through your Video Creators brand. But when you’re behind
this Patreon community, I think you’re allowed to now
become both things at once. And so I think your thank
you video is the first intro to, oh, wait, Tim has a family. And like, how cool is that? So I think that’s a great
example of– duh– thank them. Yeah, you could say– They just gave you
your credit card. And number two,
this is who I am. And this is who I am
in a normal setting, not in front of a cool gray
screen with great audio. Anyway, so I think
that’s important. No that’s good. That’s good, yeah. I haven’t even
thought about that. So talk a little bit about
the two different videos then. And do you have
some tips or ideas of how to make a good– because
mine’s actually hidden right here, because I’m logged in. So this is what would
show up to someone who’s not yet a Patreon. This video and then talk
about that second video one, after someone does
become a Patreon. Your video is, number
one, just too long. Too long, OK. How long is it again? Let me look. It’s four– oh yeah, 4, 13–
four minutes, 13 seconds. So in the end, your
message gets lost, because just like a
normal video on YouTube, people’s attention spans
are– they’re smaller. But my point is,
get to the point, tell them really quickly, what’s
Patreon, what your goal is on it, and then, probably, what
they can get from it, right? And I think it needs to
be– I think you need to be in and out in under two. And I think there’s
multiple great examples that Patreon has, actually,
given as demo videos. And we can leave links
to that down below. And I can send it
to you on email. And I can go back to my–
there’s a video then, guys, for those of you
who might not be aware– that shows after
someone pledges to support you. I’m trying to find it here. I’m not sure where it’s at. Oh no, it would be
rewards, probably. Yeah, I think so. OK, yeah, so down here,
it’s just a thank you video. And the message is nice. But it should be more
personal, in my opinion. Yeah, let me pull that
up here, because it’s– It’s just the same intro video. Oh. You see what I’m saying? Yeah, I see what you’re saying. I thought I had a
thank you one there. Apparently, I don’t. You do not. I should just take
this one down for now. I do agree. That’s kind of insulting. I agree. I should just keep this message. Thank you. So this is what my thank
you page looks, currently. Otherwise you can have
a video up here, guys. But, yeah, OK. Well I’ve already
made one improvement. We haven’t even
finished our call yet. Yeah. Then I would– this is kind
of going all over the place– but I would go back
to your main page. OK, now go to Goals. Your current lowest
goal is $1,500. Now go to the right– $3,000. Then go to the right– $6,000. Go to the right– $10,000. Go to the right– $25,000. OK, let me tell you a little
something about, what I feel, the human mind desires. You need to have a
goal that is well within your initial
reach of where you are and, in my opinion,
you should already have goals that you’ve already achieved. I think it’s just
one of those things that people want
to see you growing. It makes them happy if
they’re already your Patreons. And also, the people who are
about to be your Patreons, they want to help you
make it to your next goal. So should add, probably,
like a $50, $100, $250? No, not necessarily
at this point. But I think, for other
people who are starting, start smaller. Have some smaller ones and
then have realistic ones. And then you– and just
think about the fact that you can add
goals later, right? Not necessarily at
this point in time, where you’re already at $450. Adding things that you’ve
already gotten makes no sense. OK. But you could, at
this point in time, set a goal for, say, $750,
because I think that’s much more well within your reach. And that cute little
orange line now is going to go a lot farther
down once you do that. Yeah, makes it look like, all
right, he’s getting traction. He’s going somewhere. Yes. Can you, really quickly, go
to I want to compare the
two, because I think– Peter H-O-L-L-E-N-S– bam. So number one, see that I
have links on the top right? I just think on every social
media site of any kind, you should always have that. OK, now go down. Notice how on my Patreon I have
images, because I think it’s a tiny bit more tantalizing
to the eye to see that. And see how I’m like, where
your money goes– here’s a nice little– another image. Awesome rewards– here’s
another image, another image. I think that it’s very important
to keep people’s eyes– Visually simulated. Visually happy, right? And then hey, if you do
$15– a video for the year– I’ll send you a
personalized message. And I give an example, right? And then I’m like, here. This is– and I’m showing
people the examples. And then I show people my work. I just think it’s very important
to visually stimulate them. If your Patreon campaign’s
going to succeed, it’s going to succeed because
you are a good community manager. It’s not going to succeed
for any other reason. They don’t really care that
much about all your rewards, because if they
really did, they’re probably going to go support
somebody on Kickstarter. I mean, yes, you’re going
have super, super fans. But I just think it’s all
about building a community, building that
closeness, and you want to have that direct to
supporter relationship. Yeah, and then– so I think one
thing I’m going to right when we’re done here is, I’ll
just send out a quick message to my 88 Patreons and
just say, hey, guys. Thinking about reevaluating
some of these perks. What else do you guys want? What else would be
valuable to you? And just ask for some feedback. And let them just go
crazy in the comments. And then just look at all
their feedback, right? I would even lay it
all out on the table. Be like, this is all of the
content I’ve already created. What would make the
most sense to you and I? I’m thinking of doing x, y, z. And x, y, z might be
doing it per content. x, y, z might be relaunching
the entire thing. I mean, it just
depends on how strong you believe that bond is. Go to your dashboard. My dashboard. I would go to– I
would go to engagement. By the way, nice
growth right there. Looking nice, nice. OK, so right here, this
is– I assumed this. I think you can see the health
of a community on Patreon by how much they’re engaging. I think this is a
no-brainer for anything. You can talk about
the same stuff that you already know
very well on YouTube. You can have tons of
subscribers– blah, blah, blah– whether that’s– you
could associate that with Patreons and revenue on here. But if they’re not engaging,
and that watch time isn’t very high. Let’s just make an example. Right. Then you’re not– you don’t
have a very healthy community. So you’re going to have people
engaging with you if you’re engaging with them. So I would say, every
single comment on Patreon, no matter what,
should be responding to– every single one. And here’s the reason why. Because they’ve given
you their credit card. And they’ve trusted
that this relationship is one in which you’re going
to pay attention to them. So if you’re going to Facebook,
if you’re going to YouTube and you’re answering comments
there before you’re going to Patreon, I’m sorry, man. You don’t know what
the hell’s going on, because this is your super fan. This is your community. This is the people that
you need to bend over for. Yeah. And not only should you respond
to every single comment, but you should be
engaging with them. And you should be making
that conversation occur. Now let’s go to
Patreon Exit Surveys. OK. So basically, for
those of you guys who are listening to
this later, or something, it says, the creator wasn’t
engaging like I expected. The creator wasn’t engaging. I’m not happy with the Patreons. OK. So no matter what, you’re going
to have a lot of people saying, my financial
situation has changed. Every single one
of the people that left because you weren’t giving
them enough attention, that is, literally, an unlimited
amount of, not only revenue, but a tremendous relationship
that you could have lost, that that person might
have just introduced you to the head of
marketing at Pepsi, because Pepsi just lost–
they hated who was giving them feed– you never know. You never know. So and then also, this
is only showing you maybe the 20% of people
actually answered the survey. You should always be paying
attention to the exit surveys. You should always
be paying attention to your engagement level. You should always be
paying attention to whether or not you’re gaining
patrons month by month. I guess another thing people
can do, go to Declines. So it looks like you’re hovering
somewhere between 15% and 20% in declines, which I
think is a little high, because mine’s somewhere
between 7% and 12%-ish. So what I do, probably,
once every four months– And by declines, these
are credit card processing declines, for those of you guys
who aren’t– you don’t know. So people pledged. But then the card was declined. Right, and I would attribute
most of that to the fact that things happen. Cards get compromised. And a lot of the time you just
need to– you kind of need to just email your
Patreons and say, hey, I just want you
to know that I so appreciate your support. It’s absolutely amazing. But I wanted to let you know,
your card’s been declined. And it’s totally fine if you
can no longer support me. I totally understand that. If you’re having a
financial burden, please, use your own money. You don’t need to give it to me. But I just wanted you to know. And a lot of the time,
you’ll pick up 4% or 5% by just going through
all your declines. And you can go– if you go to
your Patreon Manager, which is in your top right. Oh, top right. Patreon Manager. View All Patreons–
You may or may not want to go there, because
then you open up emails. But it’ll open up
the list of people. And it will show
you what’s declined. So you can do a really quick
Command-F and type in Declined. And you can see the number of
declines versus your Patreons. And then you can
just, literally, just email those people. Perfect. Well, thank you so
much for all this. I really do appreciate it. I’d love to hear from you guys
in the comments, if you’re watching this on YouTube,
what your thoughts are on using Patreon
for your own channel and how you’re using it. Any tips and ideas that you feel
like could be helpful for me as I’m developing my
own Patreon page better with your guys’ help, and
with Peter’s help, and such. And any tips and
ideas you guys have, share them with each other. I know you’ll learn a
lot from each other. Peter, the community here
on this channel is awesome. I am learning from
them all the time. So cool. And you guys learn from each
other too, so that’s cool. Also, check out Peter’s stuff,
because he’s really good music. [SINGING] And you can check out
his Patreon page also, if you want to learn some more. What I’m going to do is, I’m
going to go support Peter. So what I can do
is– and this is a thing I recommend you guys–
I do this in other places too. Find somebody who’s doing
it well, follow them so that you can learn
from what they’re doing. And the best way to
follow– like I’ll know what Peter’s doing. I do this with other people who
do a good job with their email list, for example. I sign up for their email list. But then I just watch. So what kind of content do
I start getting from Peter? What’s the process that
he goes through– like, the welcome video. And then how do I see him
engaging with the content? It gives you a behind-the-scenes
look at what they’re doing. So you can start learning from
them and replicating them. So I’m going to go do that. And if you guys want to support
me on Patreon as I start working through a lot of this
stuff and figuring it out, and you want to see the
process I’m going through, you know how to do it, right– And, with your help, maybe I can
serve you guys as best as I can over on Patreon. And with your feedback, and
interaction, and everything, looking forward to doing
that with you guys. So if you want to join me over
there, that would be awesome. And supporting
this work that I’m trying to do for you guys to
help you grow your audiences, so that you can become
financially sustainable and use that sustainability
to reach people and impact their lives. So thanks for hanging out. Subscribers, if this is
your first time here, we’re all about helping
you guys do that. And I will see you
guys again soon. Thanks, bye.

100 comments on “How To Setup a Patreon that Supports You Full-Time

  1. Gleice Miranda Post author

    Wow! I just found out about Patreon !! I’m also a beginner Vlogger! I’m enjoying a lot and your videos have helped so much! Thanks!

  2. singwise Post author

    I have my Patreon set up to charge monthly because it makes much more sense for me and the kind of 'rewards' that I offer. One of the reward tiers includes a monthly hangout/Q&A, one includes a monthly personalized video lesson (in which the patrons send samples of their singing and I record a lesson in response, containing training tips and exercises to help them work on the areas of focus – and this is at a discount from my regular fee), and one tier includes a monthly private voice lesson with me (at a discount from my regular lesson rate). Some months, I might make 2 posts and other months, I might post 4 times. But those rewards and services always remain, and it's those rewards/services that are what drive my followers to become patrons. Those discounts on the personalized video lessons and private lessons are reward enough; the extra instructional videos and written posts are bonuses.

  3. Akira HP Post author

    0:35 DISGUSTING! Youtube creators? Dang. If you're friend is on you're video PLEASE tell him to clean his freakin room. I mean look at all the stuff on the floor.

  4. Pink Puffin Post author

    I dont agree with the "per video upload" unless you do something very clear and not too many uploads. Your channel puts out so much content, that even the 1$ tier could see paying 30$ a month. It is too risky. With monthly, you can donate without fear of the unknown

  5. Dark Horse Post author

    Tim and Peter, another so very helpful video that I appreciate so much.
    Very best to you both!
    Cheers, Pete

  6. VideoGameGeek1970 Post author

    Sometimes, all one needs is a little push and greatness happens. Thanks to you, I started my Patreon page today!

  7. Missy's Enchanted Channel Post author

    Question, do u have a step by step video on how Patreon Works, I just made one Yesterday, and I'm confused on how it works??

  8. The Gummicontroller Post author

    Hmm this'll definitely be helpful I want to start a patreon however I first need to perfect my channel thank you for making this video.

  9. Café Stifflered Post author

    I feel like starting a Patreon page immediately is good. I did it right at the start of my channel and I have 3 Patrons. It's not much, for sure, but those people were given the option and they took it. By withholding the option, I gain nothing.

    I like the idea of making Patreon more personable, but doesn't I'm finding it hard to balance that tone with one that says "You'll gain X value by becoming a patron." If I want people to support because they like me, that's different than supporting because they like my value prop. I'll have to think about this quite a lot more.

    Great video!

  10. Major Chisholm Post author

    I am on two platforms for video, Youtube and Vimeo. As I begin to launch my Patreon account should I only use one of those platforms or both? I am wondering if I haven't thought through something? My YouTube is mostly for Vlogs and my Vimeo is for more of my short films. Thoughts?

  11. Mdm Koo Post author

    This is interesting! Patreon is something very new to me, but I will love to set up mine as soon as I launch my YouTube full time in the second half of the year!

  12. kateGameDesign Post author

    Thanks for this! I'm thinking of starting an art/cosplay channel and this was soo helpful!

  13. Trey Roque Post author

    Rock! Solid gold tips here. I'm getting on to it – after my first coffee of the day! 😜

  14. Samurai Fingers Post author

    I WISH. I've had Patreon for 2 years, ZERO patrons. My channel has been slow, and I've really only started uploading LOTS of content in the past 3 months. I feel like I'm providing lots of valuable content, as well as fun/vlog/personal type content…I've got over 160 vids, and NOTHING so far…just gotta keep grinding….I guess?

  15. onlinebaas Post author

    Thought of Peter Holland as just a song-bird, but he truly thinks about the business side as well. Thank you for correcting my assumptions. Also, great tips.

  16. Inventioning Post author

    Thanks very much for this great information. We have just started a Patreon and are still in the process of launching it. It's live but we are going to do our introductory video before we really start marketing it. Hope to integrate some of the tips here. And Peter should know, (and it's interesting to note) that I enjoyed getting to know him on this video much more than on his Patreon introduction video. Best wishes!

  17. Rebecca Vocal Athlete Post author

    This was uber helpful….I am starting out…wish me luck

  18. Intrepid Post author

    Hey man, thanks for the video. I watch a whole bunch of Peter's stuff too and I found this very insightful. I just started a new channel so that I can focus on gaming streams and have my main account for just watching stuff, saving playlists, etc.
    I've only started the account this week, so currently my subscriptions are pretty much just the few friends that know about it. I'm looking to start up a patreon so that it's set up, but I also like to do creative writing and a bit of art, though I haven't really done much in a while. Do you think it would be worthwhile starting the patreon now?

  19. Post author

    I'm considering creating my own Patreon page to monetize the content I'm creating.Really useful video! Thank you!!!

  20. Cece D Smith Post author

    great tips, thank you for sharing.. i just created my patreon page and crossing my fingers <3

  21. Toasty toons Animations Post author

    Yeah I started a Patreon even though I have 100 subs on YouTube so no one donates to me

  22. JP Easy Guitar Post author

    I have yet to make content only available for Patreon users, and just provide everything free on youtube and link it. I assume I should create content only available to Patreon to get my first patrons? I was hoping some of my subs would help me out with donations or something, but hasn't happened yet (and not sure if I should mention it/advertise my patreon on my youtube channel)? I do free easy guitar lessons.

  23. Jim Wray Post author

    thanks for doing something like this, I am just beginning myself and getting the heads up before my launch is great!

  24. Reuben Stern Post author

    Peter Hollens is a good guy… just says it how it is, so you know what he means. Some people are too polite.

  25. Kara Dahl Russell Post author

    You need to say your company name clearly. Every time you said the name of your site, I thought you were saying "Video Critters" which is a cute name, but not your company name. Something I learned on radio. Say your name clearly and slowly. There will STILL be some people who confuse it or get it wrong, but that will be on them. The rest of your conversation is very clear, BTW… it is just saying "Video Creators" is rushed and muffled… Good luck and continued success.

  26. Moviesgamesbeyond Post author

    Thanks for another great video. I'm just wondering, when is it a good time to start Patreon as I'm only a small channel with 204 subs that do guess the movies, where me and my sons act out scenes hoping you can guess. We do games and other things too but still only new to all this. Thanks

  27. Larry Evans Post author

    I will not be contributing to anyone use Patreon. They are conspiring with Visa and Mastercard to censor conservtive content and that is completely unacceptable in America! NO MORE, SORRY!

  28. isntajerk Post author

    This is a wonderful video! It's given me some excellent ideas, especially regarding rewards. I'm new to Patreon. But, I'm excited to be experimenting with Patreon. I've also added this video to my Patreon playlist, to make it more likely that I'll watch this video again, whenever I brainstorm how to improve my Patreon Page. Thank you for making this video, and so many of your videos, so available to us.

  29. Water Fall Post author

    It seems that Patreon only wants you to support the top 20 in each category. It's like YouTube, because YouTube will only show you the most popular according to what you are searching for.

    What if I want to watch videos that no one has ever seen before or have been rarely seen?

    Where's the equality?

    Reminds me of a pyramid scheme. The ones that are already on top always win.

  30. TheSonicfan129 Post author

    I have a decent question. Do people have to make a Patreon account to give to other Patreons? I've been scratching my head about that for a while.

  31. SofieGibsonMusic Post author

    I just started a patreon page after my friend told me about it! I really want to grow my channel so I’m hoping this will help me 🙂

  32. Barbara Senteney Post author

    I do not have a patreon account yet. I am a new book tube persona and I only have 19 subscribers, I just started sharing videos on twitter. I am new to this and my video editing skills are zero to none, lol. I wish I knew how to grow my audience here. Thanks for the video

  33. Oi Zephier Post author

    I'm building a podcast and trying to figure out how to use patreon with a podcast. Thoughts? Tips?

  34. Dana D'Angelo Post author

    Peter needs to use some of his patreon funds to get a cleaning lady. He couldn't adjust his camera so we don't have to see all of his clutter? WTF

  35. Steven Keller The Emotion Reset Coach Post author

    Since this video you have 80 new patrons in about 2.5 years. Seems like something is wrong.

  36. LoonToon Post author

    With Patreon banning Creators like Sargon of Akkad I have canceled my Patreon account and now send cash or Visa Gift Cards to Creators. I will not support Jack Conte and other SJW speech sensors!

  37. Star Galactic Federation Post author

    I am A Dee Jay and I like to keep people entertained with my Dance Music and show people how to mix by using my own MP3's music using Traktor Pro or create my own mix-tape on a custom Vinyl Records and mixing them using 2 of my Technics SL1200's Turntables with the Mixer, which there is a lots of DJ's doing the same thing on YouTube, and why do they get away with it and I'm know different in them, I'm sick of death of your stupid copyright claims, why is YouTube such a disgraceful company that treats its users like me.
    I don't care no more, I think you're a joke. I might delete my YouTube account completely and go with Patreon and do the live stream with them instead. I'm sad for my true friends who built YouTube and played fairly but there are those of us who came here to watch videos and not be imposed upon. Also why cant I see the comments on my channel, or the about me section, as well as the YouTube does not have a good range of mix dance music that I can use for my live stream.

  38. Gut Feelings Post author

    This is SOOOO helpful, thank you both guys, Peter and Tim for sharing! All the best to your content creation & Patreon growth!

  39. Gregg Zart Post author

    I'm super impressed with the way Peter Hollens' mind works! Really smart dude, and grounded in reality, man I want this guy to be my bro ham LOL. Thanks for the info!

  40. Josephine De Smet Post author

    I'm just really really scared about using patreon because I'm scared I'll forget to do the benefits I promise

  41. RAVEN Moon Tarot Post author

    I still worry about taxes and how do I even do it? I don't even have pay pal yet and this will be my job

  42. TiffaHorror Post author

    Thank you for this and putting yourself out there. I know receiving feedback is difficult sometimes (especially in front of thousands of people) but you did it well and it was super helpful to see.

  43. Fiat Uno Newsletter Post author

    Virtual "begging". People that milk people for money and usually the poor people paying the rich. What freak me… rich people want to travel the world from Patreon. I don't subscribe nor do I support Patreon channels. Virtual scammers!

  44. Naveen Rai Post author

    How , I can join patreon it show plan , lite, pro , premium. What I need to choose

  45. MysticMylese TheMercifulMinecart Post author

    Is there anyone on youtube that does tutorials and not😧 just tips… btw great video 👍

  46. Alex Bükk Post author

    Such a great way of coneying the message though a converation! Got so much out of this video – Thanks! Keep uo your good work 😀

  47. SuperGirl1970 Carver Post author

    I'm doomed to failure after watching this.

    I understand responding to messages but what if you get too much that you has less time to create?

  48. Noah Riding Post author

    Is it better or worse for contributors to see how much cash others have donated? It seems like that could backfire, or would it? Maybe they will be more enthusiastic?

  49. Laura Tech Post author

    You have to ask people if it's okay to post their name at the end of your video. Never post anyone's name or say their name or any other personal information on your video without their explicit permission first. Videos stay online and can be seen by other people whom that person does not know. Also not everyone has a family to show on video or talk about, so if they don't have that in their life; they still could be a good creator that provides very helpful information to others. Having a family to support is honorable but people who do not have that in their life are also honorable people who have value to give to society.

  50. vegnewb Post author

    How do you make your unlisted videos unavailable to those who no longer support you on Patreon? Seems like they lose the incentive to support you because once they have the links, they have access to your content forever whether they support you, or not.

  51. Dianne Daniels Post author

    Just getting started with Patreon – this was very helpful as I continue to plan my launch and get my page ready.


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