Can Israelis and Palestinians See Eye to Eye? || Creators for Change

Can Israelis and Palestinians See Eye to Eye? || Creators for Change


– Because A, it’s not your land;
B, you mentioned Jerusalem– – Listen, you can’t tell me that.
Please don’t say that. – When it comes to the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I think I’m mostly emotionally sad. – I think it’s not fair that, you
know, a country that is peaceful be in a situation where
we have to be threatened. – Being an Arab girl living
inside of the Israeli state, it’s pretty hard for me to
find exactly who I am. – We’re the Palestinians. We still live under occupation,
so we have no power. – I believe that every person,
Jew, Christian, Muslim, should be full equal citizens
under Israeli sovereignty. – We need just to end
this conflict between us. It’s because we don’t need the other
generations to live the life that we live in. – If we continue to do
what we did until now, it’s probably going to stay, and
we need to do something else. – My name is Hannah Ziad. I’m 24 years
old and I’m an Arabian YouTuber. – My name is Dorit Tzadon. I’m 25 years old and I’m
a Jewish Israeli Zionist. – My name is Bara’a abdo. I’m from Nablus, 25 years old, studied
public relations and communications. – My name is Tchelet Zohar. I’m from a small town called Giv’at
Ze’ev right outside of Jerusalem, and I’m 24 years old. – My name is Arab al-Ameen. I’m 24
years old and I’m from Jerusalem. – My name is Ran Bar-Yoshafat. I’m 34 years old, and I
work as a deputy director of a think-tank that deals
with law and economics. – Can I have my Israelis on the left,
my Palestinians on the right. – The first statement is: someone I know has died because of this conflict – Okay, my father was
murdered by two IDF soldiers. It hit us hard, especially for my family. We’re only girls, and inside of the
Arabic nation, that’s really hard. – My friend, when I was 10 years old,
an Israeli sniper shot her in the head. So, that was really hard for us. – I grew up during
the Second Intifada. I carry a list with me of all my friends
who were murdered in terror attacks. So I have a list of 27 people, they
were actually very close to me. In Israel, we have a memorials day,
so I have always a dilemma to which grave to go to. – On the 16th of January, 2007, an Israeli
soldier shot and killed my sister, Abeer . She was 10 years old, in front
of her school, and I was 13. We were six kids in the house. After that, we became two
sisters and three brothers. – All of the people that I know have
lost someone to the war in some way, and I think like grief is
such a universal emotion. And like, i really, I want to hug all of you. – I served in the IDF. I still serve in the Army Reserves Combat. I was very combat, in the Second Intifada and I feel your grief and I understand it. But I have to say that I never got an order to shoot someone, the order was only to shoot if someone is a threat to your life or a threat to someone else’s life. – I also served in the IDF and they really do just teach us to defend ourselves. If we’re not defending ourselves, and we do kill someone, we go to jail. – That’s not true. that’s not true – I can tell you something? The soldier that killed my sister, he didn’t spend one day in jail. – Neither did my father both of them that murdered him did not stay one day in jail. -I believe a two- state solution is possible – Okay, I think the Palestinian, they will not stop saying that we want, we want a country so in the end, if we got to the point that we have our state and they have their state, so no problem. – This is gonna be better for us to live all of us together which is no state like Palestinian and no state like Israeli, only together and having peace together like there is no walls and there is no checkpoints which is happening right now. – I’m with you one state under Israel’s sovereignty and everyone’s full equal citizen. – Alright, okay, but under Israeli sovereignty because right now I… why is that a problem? – Why should it be on one? Why should one religion control it? why can’t the three? – It’s not a religion, It’s a nationality. It’s my nationality – So if we said we want a state with the Palestinian, the Palestinian they control it, you can live under it? – No, because – So.. – Because A: it’s not your land and B: you
mentioned you- – Listen, you can tell me that please. (all speaking at the same time) – Saying a hundred percent Palestine used to (inaudible). – Okay, I can ask you one question, please? Answer it. Your a great, great grand grandfather, you know where he is? – Yes. – Where he is? – How many graves you want me to count? – Seven before. – Seven before I know. Yes – Where? – Well, seven before is in in Hungary. – In Hungary (repeated). – Nine before is in Palestine. Don’t tell me “it’s not your land” – I’m saying it’s not your land. – It’s OUR land and it will stay and will be – Like how do you determine this is our land and it’s not their land based on what? – History, international law, interest, solidarity. – Yes. How about empathy? – I-I have empathy, I’m just not willing to live– to give up on my identity in what I believe is mine. – I’m afraid of the other side. – When I say that I’m afraid, what I basically mean is I’m afraid of going into Gaza because I know that if I will go into Gaza, I might get shot. Someone might kill me. – I think I hesitated a little bit because I don’t think I’m afraid of the people on the other side, I think I’m afraid of the gap and sort of almost equally afraid of like, you know, that side taking all of the responsibility for what is happening, or this side taking all of the responsibility for what is happening, which is obviously not working. – Well, that’s fair enough. I don’t believe that all Palestinians are terrorists because that doesn’t make sense, but I do believe that who is in charge, they’re leading the Palestinians to.. you know hating us and in a way that you know it is really unfair. – I’m against–against what you said, they’re not that Islam, because Islam didn’t, didn’t say kill—killing people or having a blood, don’t believe that. -What about the radical Muslims– the radical Muslims that come and do these things what do you have to say? – They’re not part of us, we never accept them as Muslims because they’re teaching hate, and in a way I accepted what you just said about there’s a big problem with our governments. They don’t know how to talk to each other and in my idea I really think the people are the ones that should be talking to each other. – I agree and I have to say also don’t think there’s an issue with Muslims But I disagree with you about the fact it’s about plans. There are several peace talks. They were offered 97 percent of the land 98 would have done it. They they disagree- – But after deciding with the land they came and they built more settlements. – What’s wrong with-what’s wrong with Jews living in Judea? – That’s not the problem, the problem is, is that we actually talked about this land being for these people and in the end, what we see Israelis coming in and actually building houses that’s showing us we don– you guys don’t want peace. – I trust my sources of information on the conflict. – I serve in the IDF so first of all, I trust myself and my officers. I do think that a lot of the information I’m getting is not accurate which is why I’ve tried to compare it with different sources and I also try to see it from from people, what they think, what they feel . – I don’t trust everything I see on the news that’s for sure. I do believe again there are two sides to every single story but I do see things that are happening for instance you know, things like the rockets that are striking or the stabs that are happening Those things I do trust, because I can see that they’re happening, and they’re just unfair. – Like I see the-the narrative being written as like, I watch the TV. I know how important and how powerful language is, and how it can create uhm, reality. And, like I, I can see it–like this is really dangerous like, on both sides it’s really dangerous – If you see this media that I see, they’re always against Israel for things that are not necessarily our fault. -I find it very funny because we look at it as and start saying that they’re really with Israel, which is funny I find it kind of funny. But no, I seriously do find the information that we’re getting has more as an agenda to it from both sides – I don’t believe in social media like from the Israeli side I’m gonna support Israel, and from the Palestinian side, going to support Palestinians, people going to be very confused and I’m gonna be very confused about the reality. – So, the same–the question was the sources so it doesn’t have to be just social media, and the reports like this, like I also trust the reports that the Israeli security forces publish -but they are– -don’t trust everything- -right in their ideas- not about the reality and the situation but their ideas, how do they are see this situation? It’s not really what happened I want political leaders on my side to make compromises for peace. – If we continue to do what we did until now, it’s going to continue as it was now and I don’t see it getting better. Our leaders should have our lives and the best for us in their minds and so it’s not compromising, like peace is never compromising. – The Palestinian politician, in the end they want peace, for their selves and for the people. But they have no power, because the power, it’s not in their hand. It’s the in the other side. – I would like for us to compromise only if you will be able to compromise. It doesn’t make sense that every time that we have a war, it’s always started by your side. The other day I just heard about, you know, over a thousand eight hundred (1,800) acres of crops have been burnt by you know, Hamas, who have been sending it over to Israel.Instead of you know, spending all that money in order to ruin us Why don’t they spend it on taking care of a Palestine? – It’s,one second, you’re talking about Hamas. You’re talking about the Gaza. Gaza, it’s so far from us we don’t know what’s going on over there. We don’t know–if you can ask me about the West Bank, I’m going to answer and I think you as well. – But here’s the way I see it when you’re talking about compromise: Hamas is a charter that says murder to the Jews wherever they are in the in the PA -hold on (x3) – But the PA are the moderates – You’re going back to Hamas- – But the PA that– – We are not talking about- -The Palestinian Authority– – Let me finish! It was the (Palestinian) authority that are the moderates, they’re saying it’s a death sentence if you sell your house to a Jew Are there racist people in Israel, of course, are racist people everywhere in the world? Yes, but we condemn people who are acting violently and the other side glorifies them – Violence is sometimes justified. – No… I don’t know…. – If you’re going to attack Israel. Then Israel is going to defend themselves. And that means when it comes to certain things, maybe not you, specifically, but again, to the radical Muslims, we have to, because if we don’t then there’s not going to be a state of Israel anymore. – I don’t think it’s a matter of Israeli, Arabs or Jews, Christians. Sometimes we have to use violence. I hope it’ll be close to zero as possible, but if I see someone about to murder someone else and I think it’s okay for me to use violence to stop that. I think violence is not allowed for a political goal. I think that’s a bad place to use violence I prefer talking and having a discourse. – Okay, I didn’t grow up with with a lot of violence.with the zero violence, but what I want to say the same as you said Who comes to my house to break the door to take my father? Of course, I will defense for myself so it’s called violence, but I wanted defense for myself – First of all, I am against violence 100% It’s a freaking circle It’s going to keep on happening over and over again – For me, if you’re gonna react for the violence with violence so here we go. We’re having like the same problems the same generation who is raised with hatred and violence and blood which is not acceptable. – Having a homeland for my people is important to me. – I think that Israel needs to be our homeland because if we won’t have a homeland no one else is going to accept us anywhere else, especially because there’s a lot of racism and antisemitism as well, so if we’re not gonna be here, where are we gonna go? – Okay, for me as a Muslim, the Holy Land, why it’s so important, first of all, because I was born here I have no place that I don’t replace – Every single person around the world has the right to live in the place that they were born in, and that the right for Palestinians also for if we’re gonna talk about refugees also they have the right to come back here to their lands to their homes and have their places. – The fact that we came back to our homeland and that we do have a country and a government here, for me, like, it does feel like a miracle… But I also think that the fact that we do have the power now gives us more responsibility, and that we can’t just base it on the fact that it’s our homeland and not hear other voices saying, “We feel the same about the same place,” – I often question my place in this conflict. – All the time I question if it’s more dialogue, more force, more conversations, more social media. I always ask myself What is the best thing? I tend to believe that the best thing is human interaction. – A lot of times I take a step back from like the political argument about the conflict and all of that, just because I feel like unworthy, and that I don’t know enough. – So, in my way I’ve always known what I am in this conflict, I always knew I wanted to fight for peace. That’s all I knew and that’s all I will ever know I never was in the idea of this conflict until my father passed away and then I had to think for myself. – I-I always was asking my father why I was born and and, his answer, “Not to kill, to live, to be in life.” and when my sister, she got killed, I went back to him, to tell him, he told me I was born to live, not to kill, but my sister she was born to die. The Palestinian, they didn’t kill six million Israelis, and the Israelis still didn’t kill six million Palestinian there is a Germanian (German) Embassy in Tel Aviv and there is a German Israeli embassy in Germany So… It’s a big hole, it’s always gives me hope when I’m looking at this and thinking a little bit about this. – I gotta say I think it’s, it’s nice slogans. They just I don’t think that’s the case. Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt because Egypt was willing to have peace with Israel, Israel has a peace treaty with Jordan because the Jordanians were willing to have a peace treaty with Israel. – Also from one to one, it’s different how the way you think- –I agree, which is exactly why I don’t believe in in a peace between the two sides because in my understanding of reality, the whole concept of Palestinian Nationality– – Because you don’t accept Palestinians.. – I accept human beings, I’m saying that the whole concept of Palestinian’s Nationality is one goal. And that is the annihilation of Israel. When Jordan took over Judea and Samaria,when Egypt took over Gaza– no one asked for a Palestinian– -but you’re combining everyone, you’re combining everyone into one ideology which is not right–Why, what do you mean? You’re saying that because they’re Palestinian, this is what they want, which is not true. – I take it back. The Palestinian government, the Palestinian Authority. – There. Now I understand better. – I agree it’s different Okay, because I don’t refer to the Arabs as being, in some areas, Palestinians; I refer to them as Arabs of Judea Samaria. – If we were gonna live long long age or long years, we’re going to see, we’re gonna see each other. We–we–we’re going to have it. – You can have it – No, I’m talking about peace. We’re gonna have it here. – I would like to sit down and share a meal with everyone here. – Yes, please – Sure (laughing) – Hello – I’m Johnny… – Hi Johnny – I’m Ido – HI Ido – Shalom al salam alikum There’s, on top, some passion fruit juice which gives a kick So, how was the experience guys? – For me it was perfect, was good and it was a good meeting – It was topsy turvy. It was upside down – The beginning, yeah Because like you don’t know who is in front of you, you don’t know their ideas, their ideology, what they think about you – I think we did come to some sort of an agreement that we both do want peace so– -no, not everyone, I want security, freedom, and prosperity – You’re talking about legal peace. – I don’t want a piece of paper that says “Peace”. I want to live in peace. I don’t want a piece of paper says we have a peace treaty. – That’s what we meant as well. – Okay but we don’t agree because I don’t believe in a Palestinian state, and you think you should have like a two-state solution so we don’t agree. – No, but we did say we wanted a one-state solution. – Israel with everyone equal, I’m fine with it. – Exactly – Well, I learned from you that you have a lot of sympathy for our side as well, even though your sister passed away, which is terrible. She didn’t pass away she was murdered, but I can see that you also have sympathy for the other side and you actually are trying to, you know, communicate with us even though you went through everything that you had to go through on your end. And I definitely learned that we can learn to love your side as well, or I could learn to love your side as well. – I think this is the main point for our, maybe, conflict–that we do not hear from each other So I think it’s important to hear from each other not just keep your thoughts and ideas inside your head and don’t try to open this box. Just try to open it. – We want really similar things, uhm, Yeah, and it sort of, you feel like you know, my friends from back home and so the realization that we do have the same sort of language not in like the language that we speak but in our body language and the things that interest us and the future that we hold for ourselves and for our families Like there are no sides. Like I can’t draw a line and say okay, I’m like these people or I’m with these people – Hey guys This is Jason – And this is John, – And just want to say thank you so much for watching a really special episode of middle ground We love this series because it’s an opportunity now more than ever to create great dialogue and create radical empathy – This was a challenge, but also a privilege to get to go to Jerusalem to film this dialogue around a subject that is, you know, very tricky and very difficult but we loved having the challenge – Totally. We want to say a huge shout out to YouTube and Created for Change which gave us the resources and the support to do this, and we’d love to hear your thoughts. Let us know what you thought about the episode and the various perspectives in the comments below and also let us know what other suggestions for middle ground you have. We want to do more episodes even bigger and even better. – Yeah, and as always, please be sure to click Subscribe and follow us on Instagram (together) Thanks you guys, later.

100 comments on “Can Israelis and Palestinians See Eye to Eye? || Creators for Change

  1. Jubilee Post author

    Thank you so much to YouTube for making it possible to produce this important episode of Middle Ground. We want to say thank you to our participants but also to our audience for always enabling respectful and meaningful conversation in our comments. We know this discussion does not address all aspects or perspectives of this very deep and historical conflict, but we did our best to represent as many perspectives as we could. For those of you that don’t know, Jubilee's philosophy for Middle Ground is to bring people together and have an open dialogue in order to develop a deeper sense of understanding and empathy. We hope you all enjoy 🙂 If you felt as moved as we did by the conversation, please share the video to as many people as you can!

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  2. Seifdeen Post author

    Funny how the girl claimed that its always palestine that is attacking them but all the panestian here lost someone because of israelis in a very hard way when non of them did suffer from a similar pain…

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  3. MOHANNAD ESSAM Post author

    the same thing happened to the occupied people who opposed the British occupation of their land they were portrayed as though as if they were the enemies of the country and whoever didn't agree with the occupation were either sentenced to prison or death and tortured on their way to death so don't be surprised if you were called an anti Semitic just because you think Israel is nothing but an occupation and will do everything possible to keep it this way

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  4. ali cahed Post author

    I thing that is a great step forward for the two sites.. if we didn't get together we will not have a solution. Piece from palestinia 😉

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  5. Nafisa Wahdati Post author

    the guy is the suit is the reason there is pain and torture in this world. The pain in the Palestinian guys voice and eye really hits you hard.

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  6. Damdari Antique Post author

    Israel never exist
    1. Jews forbid to have a land accourding the believe
    2. Israel Made by myth

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  7. YGHGB K Post author

    This video is completely biased because even the Israelis they picked out are just a small minority of people who agree with the Palestinians the man in the suit was speaking the truth and the other 5 were just ganging up on him. Nothing he said was wrong and this entire channel is liberal media that was pro Palestinian to begin with and anti Israel

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  8. garip garip Post author

    Bunların ana kaynağı ne biliyomusunuz kurtuluş savaşı zamanı türk milleti gibi arap milletide savaşsaydı bize ihanet etmeseydi o topraklatda bizimdi vr belkide petrolden zengin dünyanın en refah içinde yaşayan ülkesi olurduk.

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  9. جَزِّآ ئِرِيَّةّ Post author

    The land of Palestine will remain Palestinian forever , we love you and we support you , I am Algerian 🇩🇿🇵🇸🖤

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  10. hanadi Post author

    كان ترجمتو ياخرا بس يعني بالحالتين طز بمقطعكم لأن ماعلينا بالتوافق التوافق مارح يرجع فلسطين ومشكلة الدولتين سياسيه سووو كان المفروض ماتسوه تحياتي لمن دمر حياتي

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  11. Amine The Best Post author

    Only one thing that is going to happen in the future
    Palestine is going to be free again .
    From Algeria to Palestine we Totally love you and we hope we can unit in this difficult time , we wish we can support you in any way we see it possible
    InChallaH Palestine Free

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  12. carmen122 Post author

    As a student studying this conflict, I find this so hard to watch. The man in the suit is so condescending. I feel for the Palestinians much more than the Israelis.

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  13. mckie craig Post author

    they should of asked do they condemn hamass and isis. and also if they condemn Quran 9:5 and Quran (9:11-12)

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  14. Hümâ kuşu Post author

    Israel any time will not capture to Jerusalem 🇦🇪🇹🇷 Jerusalem is belonging to Palestine and Islam. We are (Turkey) every time side to Palestine 🤲💪

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  15. Kevin Durant Post author

    Maybe the soldiers weren’t put in jail because your relatives weren’t innocent! Ever thought of that?

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  16. Jim20 Post author

    I sympathize with the Palestinians… but I know the Jews are not going anywhere so there needs to be peace, equality and respect for everyone in Israel..

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  17. Vsro Post author

    no matter what we are all humans and we should all forget our differences because no matter what, we are all more alike than different and that we all could learn from each other.

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  18. AV Gaming Post author

    I'm not from Israel im only a 3rd year high school student from the philippines and when i was in 2nd year high school we had a debate about Palestine and Israel i was in team Palestine and i was super shook because i never knew that something happening like that

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  19. Jen Army Post author

    I am for Palestine and I am crying just listening to the Palestinians. I love them so much and support them. I LOVE THE PALESTINIAN DUDE SO MUCH ❤❤❤
    HE F*CKING SAID IT'S NOT YOUR LAND. OMG I NEVER HATED SOMEONE JUST BY ONE SENTENCE BUT I HATE HIM.

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  20. Nina Post author

    A European descent looking guy is telling the Arab descent looking guy that the Arab descent looking guy is not from Palestine HAHAHAHAHA

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  21. Safee Solie Post author

    How do you feel when jewish take your home?

    Just think about that..

    This jewish already brainwash by her government…

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  22. Noor Lehussein Post author

    People need to understand that Jews started war in Palestine. The Palestinians were peaceful people until the Jews attacked so for that man in the suit bringing a list needs to realise that they wouldn’t be dead if the Jews didn’t come to Palestine in the first place 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸❤️

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  23. Ezio Post author

    I think the Palestinians played way to much the victim card. If u actually know ur history about the Israel and Arabic states u can see how much more war the Arabs have cost

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  24. Icarrus Legrand Post author

    I love the guy with the white shirt. Why did I start crying when they brought out the table. Fight for PEACE.

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  25. s Post author

    Arab and Tchelet were so calm and well-spoken. I really felt for them during this discussion, especially when the guy in the suit kept cutting Arab off. It was heartbreaking not to hear him finish his thought because some entitled asshat decided his word had more value than everyone else’s.

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  26. Will Santos Post author

    I pray for all to Love and forgive each other. Have a sit down and eat together. It would be so noce and lovely if you can sit across from someone and talk and be happy and share bout life the ups and the downs where u encourage, uplift, advise and care for one another. I pray for Israel and Palestine to be united.

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  27. NJOOD Post author

    I didn’t like how the Palestinians were looking so weak and they say yes to have a meal with the killers

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  28. NJOOD Post author

    If the Palestinians really love their country and feeling sad for their families they won’t have a meal with them

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  29. Joaquin Cantela Post author

    I like Hannah because she always correct Ran if he said something wrong, she doesn’t get mad she just want to let Ran correct himself

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  30. Roberta Arevyan Post author

    Promp: can Armenians and Turks see eye to eye?

    If you want a brief summary of what exactly has been happening between those two countries watch the film Architects of Denial.

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  31. abdell embary Post author

    How come some of them have an American accent. I mean Arabs like the guy named Arab will speak with a heavy accent but the blonde and the 2 Israeli girls have an American accent.

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  32. A Google User Post author

    ISRAEL DOES NOT BELONG TO NEITHER ONE OF THESE PEOPLE. THE REAL JEWS ARE BLACK, THE AMERICAN NEGRO

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  33. theoriginstyleofmine Post author

    The man in the suit is just a fucker. No empathy inside him. I hope he saw her daughter/son get shot in front of his eyes like the palestinian man’s sister had.

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  34. Lennox Nelius Post author

    So here we have the peace bringer community, telling us that Arab is an angel and the guy in the suit is the devil…
    Are your eyes seeing what your finger are typing?
    I don't want to defent anyone's view here btw, the guy in the suit mentioned that radical viewpoint which is more of a conspiracy theory, that palestinian identity, is just reactionary antisemitism.
    Well he may be delusional, because I don't think this represents anyone outside of Hamas, but it is worth a debate with more then three palestinians. And as we have heard, that suit guy is more into dialog, so why bringing war and emotions into it, as if that will bring us together? Gosh, think twice about things, we have to keep our main focus at the horizont, not the graves.

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  35. Janeen Hammoudeh Post author

    The guys like “it’s not your land!” Like excuse me it was our land first. Look at the old maps it’s Palestine not Israel

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  36. Elena Camborda Post author

    The USA needs to stop giving Israel money 3.2 billion dollars for the country yet cannot help their own American citizens it is ridiculous to many people are dying in this conflict innocent people.

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  37. Musicana AL Post author

    The israeli guy in suit is full of hatred whereas the palestinian guy in white shirt is peaceful

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